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dear nana i couldn't read your blog just posts that were in through in En but i can tell some thing about one of your post . ja das ist richtig. people will come in your life and after that they will ruin your life your memory
good luck buddy and ciao
good luck buddy and ciao
# posted by 
: 11:52 PM
: 11:52 PM
نانا جان
یک نگاهی به گه خوری‌های یک عنینه به اسم علیرضا عبدالرضایی روی سایت رادیو زمانه بکن و بعد مادرش را به شیوه‌ی خودت بگا
فدا
یک نگاهی به گه خوری‌های یک عنینه به اسم علیرضا عبدالرضایی روی سایت رادیو زمانه بکن و بعد مادرش را به شیوه‌ی خودت بگا
فدا
# posted by : 10:22 AM
: 10:22 AM
Dear nana
how difficult it is to reach you! I am also furious after having read the outrageous nonsense by Jaami & Co. Bastards! Bastards all of them, especially that Lump, who also looks like a Lump, Nabavi. and imagine how that ignorant rural idiot jaami claims to be 'intelligentsia', and pretends he is profound and sophisticated. that complex ridden ass who takes a photo with a laptop...
If you found time i will send you a piece on they've written; i dont know when that would be. continue the good work
cheers
how difficult it is to reach you! I am also furious after having read the outrageous nonsense by Jaami & Co. Bastards! Bastards all of them, especially that Lump, who also looks like a Lump, Nabavi. and imagine how that ignorant rural idiot jaami claims to be 'intelligentsia', and pretends he is profound and sophisticated. that complex ridden ass who takes a photo with a laptop...
If you found time i will send you a piece on they've written; i dont know when that would be. continue the good work
cheers
# posted by : 8:53 PM
: 8:53 PM
so dear nana here is a piece for you. Do with it whatever you like, or nothing at all - though it is a waste of time to write about that character. And pity I dont have the farsi font and had to write it in english. cheers
Who do you think you are kidding Mr Jami?
In the response to his critics, Mr Jami employs a cheap, bland and primitive populism - and an appeal to popularity. He is basically saying that we have nothing to do with 'politics', but are targeting 'people'. But who are these 'people' exactly? Is there a formless, homogeneous mass called 'people', not divided along the lines of class, or gender, or ethnicity or political affiliation or income or occupation or any other category?
And how can you claim, implicitly at least, that you are not interested in 'politics' when the entire Zamneh project, funded by the Dutch government for obvious political aims, is deeply political in nature? And even if this pathetic Radio Zamneh were not funded by the Dutch government, how can you claim you are not political at all, when dealing with a country like Iran, where everything is politics?
His line of 'argument', if one can call it an 'argument', is childish and silly. He is saying we have nothing to with the Islamic Republic, but concerned with the 'people'. And what exactly does this mean? In a fascist theocracy of the worst kind, how can you separate this government, criminal and illegitimate as it is, from the 'people' and their everyday life?
And yet, let us just assume that the project is entirely apolitical - and accept this claim - in that case, is not better to call a spade a spade and simply say we are in the business of entertaining? With that one would have no problem, had not Mr Jami & Co. would not have taken such intellectual, sophisticated, high brow affectations and gestures. Hollow, empty, hypocritical, shallow and pathetic is how one would describe his mumbo jumbo.
In this so called response to critics, there are a lot of words, but barely any substance. To avoid the issue, and to confuse it, he uses a lot of sophistry, and throws cheap slogans here and there; he is at pain to justify himself, and he does not succeed.
'They [his critics] discover secrets and people are perplexed'? What is this other than cheap and misleading populism? It means we are not elitist; we do not place ourselves over and above the masses, we are one the same....One really wonders, he is at the end of his tether otherwise he would not have resorted to such cheap populism - the time of such rhetoric is long over.
Soon he is going to meet with Iranians in the Netherlands and in Germany, when he will undertake the task of enlightening them, answering their questions, face to face; he will clarify all the issues. Since when? Since when this sense of self-importance and on what basis? Since when you find yourself in such a position of authority, intellectual authority, moral authority? Pathetic narcissism of a complex ridden nobody who has suddenly become 'somebody' and finds it in himself, with such arrogance, to declare that he will answer questions. Ignorant fool! Arrogant fool! As if he the Pope, about to receive an audience. The whole tone of it...
"'Today when we observe the lively social scene in Iran, we are surprised by the large number of writers, artists, students, intellectuals....People live their lives and pay no attention to the government and state ideology'.
Really? Only an 'apolitical' fool like you can say such a thing about contemporary Iran. People live their lives and pretend these criminals are not their overlords only because they are powerless, because they are in despair, because they have gone mad and because they are at the brink - look at the statistics coming out of that hell just to get an idea - the statistics on suicide, on drug addiction, on crimes, divorce rates, on profound social malaise, to get an idea of what is happening - and if these are not the result of 'politics', with which you have nothing to do, then what are they about? Why trying to portray a happy-go-lucky situation, where people live their lives, and the government does its business of governing and let people live their lives? Is there a hint of guilt here, or a hint of stupidity, or a hint of hypocrisy and or a hint of opportunism? We know the answer.
To avoid the issue and get himself off the hook, he employs sophistry and cheap populism again. He gives slogans about Zamneh being for the people, of the people and democratic. We don't have dos and donts, he says. That is to say, everything goes, let's just have a good time, who cares what the government does, let us live our lives and enjoy it - all is well as long we don't cross the red line, as long we don't have dos and don'ts, as long as we don't deal with real issues, the causes of our calamities and catastrophes. Calamities? What calamities? Who do you think you are kidding Mr Jami?
He says those who have dos and donts see no 'people', but a formless mass. I am not quite sure how to respond to this rubbish. Why being concerned with the realities of Iran, crystal clear for all to see, is having dos and donts? Only those who want to deceive themselves, avoid responsibility, and seize the opportunities that Lady Luck has opened to them would resort to such banalities. We are concerned with women, with children, with students, with workers, and all the varieties of struggles that are going on, and not with a 'formless mass' ; it is a cheap shot to accuse others, who do not subscribe to your dishonesty and opportunism, of Stalinism and party politicking, as your reference to dos and donts seems to imply. This is a poor line of defence.
Who are these 'people' and 'youth' who have found their 'individuality, as you claim'? Sub-literate charlatan do you know what 'individuality' means? It means liberal democracy, it means separation of the public sphere from the private sphere, it means recognition of human rights, it means recognition of others' humanity, it means institutionalisation of the norm that governments can not enter the private sphere of it citizens, it means the concept of citizenship - and we owe these to the Reformation, to the Peace of Westphalia and the establishment of the institution of the 'nation state', to the French Revolution, to the American Revolution, to the Enlightenment, to 400 years of struggle for secularization and separation of church and state - and you are telling us that the poor and deprived and oppressed 'people' of Iran have achieved this 'individuality' and just live their lives, in that 'heart of darkness', which not only does not have a notion of the 'individual' but no notion of the 'nation' either - we are back to the 'umma', to the 'Dawn of Islam'. Who do you think you are kidding Mr Jami?
And you say you see, in that 'heart of darkness', 'zest for life, striving for philosophical knowledge, anti authoritarian literature, bold experimentation' etc. etc. Really? You see young people hungry for computer know-how? Do you know the percentage of 'people' who own a home computer in Iran?
Do you know what 'poverty line' is? It means the line that if you crossed, you can barely subsist physically and materially. Do you know the percentage of people under this line in Iran? Well, 'good on you' as they say here. I would have loved to live in such a society; what are doing in the Netherlands then?
"Our audience are not the government but the 'people'. Our language is not the language of boldness and revelations, but contentment and compromise." Who do you think you are kidding Mr Jami?
For all your 'people' 'people' talk, in fact you are the one who holds this people in utter contempt, for you take them as fools, you think you can entertain them so that they can forget or ignore the pain and misery that is their daily lives. You, a sub literate and an impostor, hold them in contempt because you accuse them of having no idea of what statistics or planning and programming are, and of having no curiosity about the outside world and how to get along with it. And all this after your earlier paragraph about a society full of 'zest for life' and striving for knowledge. Self contradictory idiot, you don't even know how to cover your back.
Do not talk about how this generation sees struggle and who its heroes are. Do not tell us how we have to change otherwise we will be left behind. Do not tell us Zamneh is the medium of the 'individual; the medium of a new generation which seeks a 'new politics' (what is 'new politics', by the way? Can you enlighten us?). Do not bullshit us anymore. You cannot even define your basic concepts. You do not know what you are talking about and you do not know how to cover your back. This is exactly what is called 'bullshit'. From the first to the last word, your writing was nothing but bullshitting us. As nana says, do not insult our intelligence. Continue with your projects and programs and whatever else you do, but do not write any more and shut up - for your own good.
Who do you think you are kidding Mr Jami?
In the response to his critics, Mr Jami employs a cheap, bland and primitive populism - and an appeal to popularity. He is basically saying that we have nothing to do with 'politics', but are targeting 'people'. But who are these 'people' exactly? Is there a formless, homogeneous mass called 'people', not divided along the lines of class, or gender, or ethnicity or political affiliation or income or occupation or any other category?
And how can you claim, implicitly at least, that you are not interested in 'politics' when the entire Zamneh project, funded by the Dutch government for obvious political aims, is deeply political in nature? And even if this pathetic Radio Zamneh were not funded by the Dutch government, how can you claim you are not political at all, when dealing with a country like Iran, where everything is politics?
His line of 'argument', if one can call it an 'argument', is childish and silly. He is saying we have nothing to with the Islamic Republic, but concerned with the 'people'. And what exactly does this mean? In a fascist theocracy of the worst kind, how can you separate this government, criminal and illegitimate as it is, from the 'people' and their everyday life?
And yet, let us just assume that the project is entirely apolitical - and accept this claim - in that case, is not better to call a spade a spade and simply say we are in the business of entertaining? With that one would have no problem, had not Mr Jami & Co. would not have taken such intellectual, sophisticated, high brow affectations and gestures. Hollow, empty, hypocritical, shallow and pathetic is how one would describe his mumbo jumbo.
In this so called response to critics, there are a lot of words, but barely any substance. To avoid the issue, and to confuse it, he uses a lot of sophistry, and throws cheap slogans here and there; he is at pain to justify himself, and he does not succeed.
'They [his critics] discover secrets and people are perplexed'? What is this other than cheap and misleading populism? It means we are not elitist; we do not place ourselves over and above the masses, we are one the same....One really wonders, he is at the end of his tether otherwise he would not have resorted to such cheap populism - the time of such rhetoric is long over.
Soon he is going to meet with Iranians in the Netherlands and in Germany, when he will undertake the task of enlightening them, answering their questions, face to face; he will clarify all the issues. Since when? Since when this sense of self-importance and on what basis? Since when you find yourself in such a position of authority, intellectual authority, moral authority? Pathetic narcissism of a complex ridden nobody who has suddenly become 'somebody' and finds it in himself, with such arrogance, to declare that he will answer questions. Ignorant fool! Arrogant fool! As if he the Pope, about to receive an audience. The whole tone of it...
"'Today when we observe the lively social scene in Iran, we are surprised by the large number of writers, artists, students, intellectuals....People live their lives and pay no attention to the government and state ideology'.
Really? Only an 'apolitical' fool like you can say such a thing about contemporary Iran. People live their lives and pretend these criminals are not their overlords only because they are powerless, because they are in despair, because they have gone mad and because they are at the brink - look at the statistics coming out of that hell just to get an idea - the statistics on suicide, on drug addiction, on crimes, divorce rates, on profound social malaise, to get an idea of what is happening - and if these are not the result of 'politics', with which you have nothing to do, then what are they about? Why trying to portray a happy-go-lucky situation, where people live their lives, and the government does its business of governing and let people live their lives? Is there a hint of guilt here, or a hint of stupidity, or a hint of hypocrisy and or a hint of opportunism? We know the answer.
To avoid the issue and get himself off the hook, he employs sophistry and cheap populism again. He gives slogans about Zamneh being for the people, of the people and democratic. We don't have dos and donts, he says. That is to say, everything goes, let's just have a good time, who cares what the government does, let us live our lives and enjoy it - all is well as long we don't cross the red line, as long we don't have dos and don'ts, as long as we don't deal with real issues, the causes of our calamities and catastrophes. Calamities? What calamities? Who do you think you are kidding Mr Jami?
He says those who have dos and donts see no 'people', but a formless mass. I am not quite sure how to respond to this rubbish. Why being concerned with the realities of Iran, crystal clear for all to see, is having dos and donts? Only those who want to deceive themselves, avoid responsibility, and seize the opportunities that Lady Luck has opened to them would resort to such banalities. We are concerned with women, with children, with students, with workers, and all the varieties of struggles that are going on, and not with a 'formless mass' ; it is a cheap shot to accuse others, who do not subscribe to your dishonesty and opportunism, of Stalinism and party politicking, as your reference to dos and donts seems to imply. This is a poor line of defence.
Who are these 'people' and 'youth' who have found their 'individuality, as you claim'? Sub-literate charlatan do you know what 'individuality' means? It means liberal democracy, it means separation of the public sphere from the private sphere, it means recognition of human rights, it means recognition of others' humanity, it means institutionalisation of the norm that governments can not enter the private sphere of it citizens, it means the concept of citizenship - and we owe these to the Reformation, to the Peace of Westphalia and the establishment of the institution of the 'nation state', to the French Revolution, to the American Revolution, to the Enlightenment, to 400 years of struggle for secularization and separation of church and state - and you are telling us that the poor and deprived and oppressed 'people' of Iran have achieved this 'individuality' and just live their lives, in that 'heart of darkness', which not only does not have a notion of the 'individual' but no notion of the 'nation' either - we are back to the 'umma', to the 'Dawn of Islam'. Who do you think you are kidding Mr Jami?
And you say you see, in that 'heart of darkness', 'zest for life, striving for philosophical knowledge, anti authoritarian literature, bold experimentation' etc. etc. Really? You see young people hungry for computer know-how? Do you know the percentage of 'people' who own a home computer in Iran?
Do you know what 'poverty line' is? It means the line that if you crossed, you can barely subsist physically and materially. Do you know the percentage of people under this line in Iran? Well, 'good on you' as they say here. I would have loved to live in such a society; what are doing in the Netherlands then?
"Our audience are not the government but the 'people'. Our language is not the language of boldness and revelations, but contentment and compromise." Who do you think you are kidding Mr Jami?
For all your 'people' 'people' talk, in fact you are the one who holds this people in utter contempt, for you take them as fools, you think you can entertain them so that they can forget or ignore the pain and misery that is their daily lives. You, a sub literate and an impostor, hold them in contempt because you accuse them of having no idea of what statistics or planning and programming are, and of having no curiosity about the outside world and how to get along with it. And all this after your earlier paragraph about a society full of 'zest for life' and striving for knowledge. Self contradictory idiot, you don't even know how to cover your back.
Do not talk about how this generation sees struggle and who its heroes are. Do not tell us how we have to change otherwise we will be left behind. Do not tell us Zamneh is the medium of the 'individual; the medium of a new generation which seeks a 'new politics' (what is 'new politics', by the way? Can you enlighten us?). Do not bullshit us anymore. You cannot even define your basic concepts. You do not know what you are talking about and you do not know how to cover your back. This is exactly what is called 'bullshit'. From the first to the last word, your writing was nothing but bullshitting us. As nana says, do not insult our intelligence. Continue with your projects and programs and whatever else you do, but do not write any more and shut up - for your own good.
# posted by : 2:03 AM
: 2:03 AM
نانا بزرگوار و استوارتر از آن است که با ترسیم و الصاق چهره خاندان پیامبر و آقازاده های اسلامی حاکم بر وی و تهمت و فحاشی به او بتوانید قهرمان ما را از میدان بدرش کنید.
با اطمینان او می ماند تا در روز موعود با دستانش طناب دار را حداقل بر گردن چندین آخوند و پاسدار بیندازد.
به امید آن روز(نانا جان این نظر را در آنتی نانا گذاشتم اما (مج)درج نکرد
جهان!
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